Gijs Kruitbosch gijskruitbosch at
Tue Jun 2 08:21:12 UTC 2015

On 02/06/2015 00:59, Robert Strong wrote:
>     While I don't think there are immediate plans to do so, we are very
>     likely to drop support for "old-school" themes going forward, and I do
>     not think investing in their documentation is a good use of time right
>     now.
> It would be a "good thing" to announce such a likelihood early (now?) 
> so the theme developers can choose whether they would like to continue 
> maintaining, creating, etc. something that support for will be dropped 
> at some point.

I don't understand how saying "we will likely get rid of full themes at 
some yet-to-be-defined point in the future" is helpful for anyone. We 
don't know when, and we don't know what the replacement will look like 
right now, so saying anything definite will just create useless 
uncertainty and justified backlash (why take away X which works, without 
providing an alternative?). When there is a concrete plan, I'm sure 
people will make the relevant announcements.

Long-term (ie at least a year, likely longer), a lot of people agree we 
don't really want to be using XUL, and so that if nothing else will mean 
full/complete/non-lightweight themes need an overhaul. We may also want 
to do that overhaul sooner to ease the transition away from XUL, and for 
various other reasons. In any case, it's not really useful to speculate 
about this right now, because speculation is all it would be. We don't 
even have accurate usage numbers (we have "installed by X users", but 
not "current theme for X users", AIUI), so having a reasonable 
discussion about cost/value isn't really possible at the moment.

That being said, I think given the complexity of full themes, and the 
relatively small, expert community who make them right now, updating the 
documentation to be up-to-date would likely take significantly more time 
than the subject warrants, going forward, so I agree with Gavin that 
there are probably more important things to update docs for.

~ Gijs
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